Considering the source, I would call that high praise.
Tucker Carlson's interview with Orban was the best news TV in quite a while.
Multiculturalist Liberals Hate Hungary for Being a Pro-Borders, Traditional Values Success: Orban
Jack Montgomery
Breitbart
Hungarian
prime minister Viktor Orbán believes that his government is targeted for
criticism because the liberal left cannot bear to see a country that promotes a
Christian national identity over multiculturalism, strong borders, and
traditional values succeeding.
Quizzed by Tucker Carlson on why, as a former anti-Communist dissident once admired in the West, he believes left-liberal politicians such as U.S. President Joe Biden now characterise his government and that of allied conservative countries as “totalitarian”, Orbán said he believes their main problem with him is Hungary’s success.
“[I]t is a
real challenge for the liberal thinkers, that what is going on in Central
Europe… is going on here is building up a society, which is very successful,”
he told the FNC
host, putting Poland in the same bracket as Hungary.
“Economically,
politically, culturally, even in demography we
have some success, family policy – so, what you can see here could be described
as a success story,” he said.
“But
the fundamentals of this success is totally different than it is wished… by
many other Western countries,” he explained.
Indeed,
the family policy Orbán
refers to, which entails a generous package of
tax breaks, government-backed loans for family cars and homes, student debt
forgiveness for mothers, grandparental leave, and other policies designed to
support natural population growth, flies in the face of the prevailing wisdom
in much of the West, which is that Westerners having children exacerbates
climate change and mass migration is the only solution to
ageing populations — a thesis Orbán’s government categorically rejects.
“[T]he
Western liberals cannot accept that inside Western civilization, there is a
conservative national alternative, which is more successful at the level of
everyday life than the liberal ones. That’s the reason why they criticize
us,” Orbán said.
“They
are fighting for themselves, not against us. But we are an example, that
somebody, or a country, which is based on traditional values, on national
identity, based on tradition [and] Christianity could be successful, or
sometimes even more successful, than a leftist-liberal government.”
On the
question of his forceful termination of the 2015 border crisis sparked by
Germany’s Angela Merkel effectively extending an open invitation for migrants
to march into Europe, Orbán was clear that, in his view, he had the right
to build a wall and
put an end to the border crossings.
“Of
course. It’s coming from God, the nature, so all arguments [are] with us.
Because this is our country. This is our population, this is our history, this
is our language,” he said.
“Of course, if you are in trouble, and there is nobody closer to
you than the Hungarians, you have to be helpful. But can’t say simply, that
‘okay, it’s a nice country, I would like to come here and live here, because
it’s a nicer life’. It is not a human right to come here. No way, because it’s
our land. It’s a nation, it’s a community, families, history, tradition,
language,” he added.
When
Carlson put it to him that his actions had proved “very offensive to a lot
of countries in Western Europe, to their leaders”, the Hungarian leader
suggested that this was because his border policies were a repudiation of their
own worldview.
“[M]any
European countries decided to open a new chapter of their own history” and
pursue a “post-Christian, post-national society,” Orbán mused.
(Such
beliefs are not confined to Europe, either, with Canadian prime minister Justin
Trudeau having declared in
2015 that “There is no core identity, no mainstream in Canada… Those
qualities are what make us the first post-national state.’’)
“They
believe firmly that if different communities, even if a huge number of, let’s
say Muslim communities and the original inhabitant — let’s say Christian
communities — are mixed up, the outcome of this will be good,” Orbán went
on.
“There
is no answer whether it will be good or bad, but I think it’s very risky, and
the chance that it will be not good, but it will be very bad, is obvious,” he
said.
[E]ach nation has the right to take this risk or to reject
this risk. We, Hungarians, decided not to take that risk to mix up our society.
That’s the reason why they attack Hungary so harshly, and that’s the reason why
my personal reputation is very bad,” he concluded.
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